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sesame seed



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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:27 am    Post subject: PM, please DO NOT help us! Reply with quote

OPEN LETTER TO THE PRIME MINISTER


Dear Prime Minister,

We citizens of singapore urge you to PLEASE MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.

We DO NOT NEED your help. Every time, you mention HELP, we have to run for cover!!!

Help the poor? Raise GST!

Help traffic flow? Up ERP!

Help passenger service? Up Bus fare/MRT fare!

Help us get taxi? Raise taxi fare!

Help us get good government? Raise Minister and Civil servant salary!

Everytime YOU WANT TO HELP, we all PAY FOR IT!!!

THANK YOU THANK YOU...TOLONG LAH, please, we will HELP OURSELVES, no need your help liao.

We DARE NOT ask for help any more!!!

Sir, most honoured sir, I urge you NOT TO HELP Singapore INVEST also!

Everytime your wife invest, we all lose money! Kao liao, kum siah!

Just let us have a dose of bad governance, like recently the Mat Selamat case, like dat....so far, it is ok, your incompetence, we ACCEPT!

PLEASE DO NOT help us have better security! Wait we all kena PAY FOR IT!!

I believe ALL SINGAPOREANS PREFER NOT TO HAVE CRUTCH MENTALITY!

I think it is ok lah, please just take your salary and enjoy life ok?

Thank you thank you,

I am very chin chai one, any how any how, no need to help oso can one.


Yours very sincerely,

Chin Chai One.


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Green Peas



Joined: 24 May 2006
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 8:13 am    Post subject: You can't fool all the people all the time. Reply with quote

You can't fool all the people all the time.

The appeal by Chin Chai One is very amusing and it strikes a chord with
me. I think many Singaporeans are of the same opinion.

You give out a bit of peanuts, butter and candies and you take back big
chunks of bread and butter through various designs and packaging.
Moreover, this has been going on for years. During the election year,
you give out something sweet. After the election year, for the remaining
four years, you take back ten times what you gave out.

People are no fools. Even fools, after a few years of seeing the same
pattern repeating, they start to see the picture and start to get a little
bit not so foolish as before.

There is a saying:

"You can fool someone some of the time but you cannot fool all the people all the time."
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redbean



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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Singaporean Phobia

The fact that this letter is circulating all over paradise simply means that it strikes a familiar cord among many Singaporeans. Yes, this help thing is getting sickening and frightening. How about the govt got kicked out in the next General Election and the reason is that the people do not want to be helped and want to be left alone?

This is an interesting development and may prove my theory is correct. Whatever that is good will end up bad. Whatever policies or good intention that can bring a govt to power could at the end of the day bring it down. The people who support the govt or are instrumental to keeping the govt in power will be the one that will bring down the govt. The formula for success is the recipe for disaster.

This fear of too much help is no longer a joke. It is a genuine fear that help is really no help. Just think about it.
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sesame seed



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 2009 Budget and especially the misnomer Jobs Credit Scheme reminds me of this open letter by Chin Chai One to the Prime Minister.

I think it is timely to bring it up again for people's attention.

Right or wrong?
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redbean



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How benevolent is our govt?

The govt just announced the resilience budget worth more than $20b to help the people in such a difficult time. Should the people be grateful? We heard the call that we are all family, looking and caring for each other, helping each other and making life better for everyone. I did not hear wrongly.

Then you look at the HDB policy, market pricing to max what they can get from the buyers. They used all public resources to monopolise public housing to squeeze it out as much as they could from the people they called family. And when you complain they said it is affordable because you can pay with all your CPF. Hey, the CPF is people’s retirement money! What happens if they have nothing left for retirement and hospital bills?

Then the Health Ministry got worried. With so much money being taken to pay for flats, better lock up some in case they need to pay for hospital bills. And there goes another chunk into the Medisave. Then another proclamation, Singaporeans got no problem paying for medical bills. Then another ministry got worried. What if they got no money to retire and demand public assistance? Better lock up for this before there is no money left.

Hey, what about me, the one who contributes to the CPF? I got nothing left for myself. Just too bad lah. And don’t expect charity or free lunch from the govt. The govt does not believe in encouraging crutch mentality. As long as the people got money to pay for HDB flats, pay for hospital bills, the two big ticket items, that’s good enough. Oh now got compulsory CPF Life and with easy options except no option to opt out.

So now all the money got locked up for some good reasons, and here comes the recession and people got no more savings to fall back on, we have the resilience package. How much will each get and how long will it last?

So there you are, a benevolent govt, and a people with one of the highest savings and all crying money not enough.
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thatwhy



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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally ho ching lose trillion. We all bankcrupt. She step down !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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redbean



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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry, in the long run all the losses will be recouped and with lots of profits. Seat tight and brave the rough seas.
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Kentt



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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

long run means 10, 15, 20 years? we should still be around. let's hope not longer than that.
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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Kentt, welcome to the forum.

You should count yourself lucky if you are still around. But that is beside the point. What is important is whether the money will be shared around. What will the money benefit? Is there a formula to share this common wealth?
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Kentt



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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi redbean,

sorry, what i was trying to say, sg may never see profits on the capital invested.
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thatwhy



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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What profit ? Sg is just a land.

People see ? What ? With so many foriegn workers here ? Singaporean cannot find jobs is their problem as they vote PAP into the stupid house
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have a lot of money saved over the years. What we need is good leaders to use these money wisely to benefit everyone and not just a select few.

And Kentt, I really want to pray very hard that we will see the money and enjoy a bit of this wealth like all citizens.
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes that's a big credit to the gov policies on savings which will see us through the present bad times.

but it looked like huge investments were made over the last few years when the economy, on hindsight, was at its peak. we may recover the paper losses over next decade or so. but what kind of 'profits' if we make say 10-15% in 30 years' time? don't see how citizens like us can benefit from it.
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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You got your point Kentt. Before talking about profit, we need to think of making back the losses.

As for ploughing some of the money back to the people, it is all a matter of how much savings is needed. Do we need $500 billion, $5 trillion or $50 trillion?

Remember NKF's rationale of saving and saving and saving?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A shocking case in ST forum

A Lim Beo Thiam, 52 years old, and have been unemployed for the past 18 months. Business collapsed and lost a leg to diabetes. He was taken to court for arrears of $432 owned to Town Council for S&C charges. His debt kept ballooning. He wrote to the ST hoping that help is on the way. He must be one of those guys who have slipped out of the safety net. He must be desperate.

It is shocking that such cases actually exist. I thought all the craps of people falling into hard times were fiction. Got such things in paradise meh?
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